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Broke down today and had to get green flag out. Great service from them.

But the garage are saying it could be the injectors and/or the pump. To be sure, the injectors have to come out and be sent for testing, if they are ok then it could be the pump, if they come back as needing replacing then it could be both the injectors and the pump!!

Because they aren't a main dealer they have suggested we take to them as they may be able to test it all on site rather than having to send them away.

Either way I can see it being expensive sad2.gif

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Oh dear Mark.............best wishes for the future of the car.......

geoff

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What bloody awful timing!!

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Your not kidding. Its the not knowing that frustrates. The main dealer haven't been able to get me an appointment yet so hoping tomorrow morning they can come up with something

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Got a Bosch franchise near you?, have one in Newbury called Rayners, they do all sorts of injection systems, and yes, even the main dealers use them, so if I ever have any fuel related problems, I cut out the middle man and go direct to them, about half the price

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Not sure, we might have though, will take a look and thanks

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Its unlikely all 4 injectors would fail at once I would get some diagnostics done through the ODB port first did the Sorento just suddenly stop?

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It kept hesitating then just stopped. It had hesitated a couple of times over the weekend but only minor. It starts again fine but both times the garage took it for a spin it broke down.

I agree I doubt it is all 4 but the garage has said they can't get much info from their computer as it needs a main dealer diagnostics which seems reasonable. The only problem is it was late in the day and when I phoned the main dealer they had nothing available until the 20th Jan yikes.gif In fairness though they did say to ring back in the morning and the will see if I can get a slot.

Another problem is that there were no errors stored in the memory that they could see at first, although I think they found some later and both the garage and recovery tried to access the memory with the same result. Plus no warnings show up on the dash undecided.gif

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It kept hesitating then just stopped. It had hesitated a couple of times over the weekend but only minor. It starts again fine but both times the garage took it for a spin it broke down.

I agree I doubt it is all 4 but the garage has said they can't get much info from their computer as it needs a main dealer diagnostics which seems reasonable. The only problem is it was late in the day and when I phoned the main dealer they had nothing available until the 20th Jan yikes.gif In fairness though they did say to ring back in the morning and the will see if I can get a slot.

Another problem is that there were no errors stored in the memory that they could see at first, although I think they found some later and both the garage and recovery tried to access the memory with the same result. Plus no warnings show up on the dash undecided.gif

When was the fuel filter last changed?

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your starter for 10

Thanks Alan

When was the fuel filter last changed?

I can only assume at the last service? about August time If I recall. But would need to check with the garage that have it at the moment that also service it

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Thanks Alan

I can only assume at the last service? about August time If I recall. But would need to check with the garage that have it at the moment that also service it

Cheapest thing to try first gives the sort of symptoms you have and not monitored by the ecu at the same time they can check it for metal filings which could indicate fuel pump failure.

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Mark,

have them check out the fuel tank. My neighbour has just had the self-same problem with his 08 plate Sorento. The cause of his problem was the lining of the fuel tank reacting with the fuel due to the amount of bio-diesel that the Government (so he tells me) requires to be included as a %'age in regular pump diesel. This reaction causes a contamination in the fuel which obstructs/blocks the fuel supply through the system.

This is a problem that he argued with Kia about to no satisfactory solution so he now has a 61 plate Santa Fe.

Google Kia Sorento fuel tanks and see what comes up. It's not a new problem apparently.

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Thanks Bob will do

metal filings which could indicate fuel pump failure

They had said about that Steve but they said they would need to be sent away to have them tested, hence a call to the main dealer who I hope can do that sort of thing quicker and cheaper

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Mark

This is a good source of info on Sorento's http://www.kiasorento.proboards.com/

David

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Mark,

have them check out the fuel tank. My neighbour has just had the self-same problem with his 08 plate Sorento. The cause of his problem was the lining of the fuel tank reacting with the fuel due to the amount of bio-diesel that the Government (so he tells me) requires to be included as a %'age in regular pump diesel. This reaction causes a contamination in the fuel which obstructs/blocks the fuel supply through the system.

This is a problem that he argued with Kia about to no satisfactory solution so he now has a 61 plate Santa Fe.

Google Kia Sorento fuel tanks and see what comes up. It's not a new problem apparently.

Not just an issue with new cars - as the % had been increased by the Gov't a lot of classics are suffering fuel system problems - rotting seals, degraded rubbers components etc. I believe this has been raised with the DoT by the FHBVC but with little or no response for the DoT (what a surprise!!)

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I have been ridiculed on this forum for years regarding fuel quality, A good ten years ago I was doing adding engine oil to my fleet fuel tanks to try and help. There is hardly any lubrication whatsoever left in our deisal now ( put some on your hand and blow it evaporates just like petrol rather than leaving oil). I know for fact Iveco, And maybe Volkswagen were refusing warranty claims on fuel systems in Uk. At the mo lots of people are adding 2stroke, It all helps.

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Hope it isn't injectors, I had a leaking one a few weeks ago (luckily just needed new copper washer and rubber o-ring) and Kia were quoting £289 + vat each for injectors for the 2.5 engine.

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It goes in to the dealer on Mon after the garage and the diesel guys couldn't fix it sad2.gif

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I had similar problems with my Sorento and it turned out to be contaminated diesel.

Worth checking Mark.

Did you fill up just before problem started ?

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its now with a deisel specialist as dealer cant see it for 5 days

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There is hardly any lubrication whatsoever left in our deisal now ( put some on your hand and blow it evaporates just like petrol rather than leaving oil). I know for fact Iveco, And maybe Volkswagen were refusing warranty claims on fuel systems in Uk.

Diesel fuel with bio in your hand will evaporate by blowing on it.????

As the standard 7% bio mix is the same throughout the EU why would claims be refused only in the UK?

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Which is why myself and lots of others are adding 2-stroke oil at every fill up, really makes a difference to the noise of a diesel engine adds a bit to the mpg as well

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Wish Robjax was here to advise on this.

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its now with a deisel specialist as dealer cant see it for 5 days

cool, you'll save a bundle on main dealer charges.

still trying to figure what the problem is, is it dead dead, or limping along?, only ask as my old hyundai van, now gone thank goodness, had a near solid blocked filter, forget about paint coming off the tank, poor weasel etc, simply down to fuel filter wasn't on any service chart, so same one for 100,000 miles until power just fell off, not nice having no go on a fast moving motorway.

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