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'Explorer Group' Rear-Lights

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At least I think it's the Explorer Group that uses them?

I was in Wandahomes (A1/M62 interchange branch) on Sunday & was looking at new vans after buying what we wanted in the shop.

These large individual 92mm lights are the same items that are fitted to NAS* specification Land Rover Defenders.

They're also used a lot over here to replace the smaller 73mm lights on Defenders.

I was wondering if anyone knows the prices of them from Explorer, asI'm going to use a set to improve the lighting of my 110, as seen on this 90

It would give me duplicated tails, reverses & fog;

Tail/brake (upper positions)

Tail/fog (lower positions)

I know the prices from the traditional LR suppliers, so I was trying to find out if they're cheaper through a differant route

Yorkshire to the core, that's me :laugh:

* North American Specification

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any item bought from a caravan manufacturer is usually more expensive than any other source, sorry to tell you.

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I was over in Barrons this afternoon (the branch on the A64 to the east of York) & was looking at a new Crusader Storm.

Well........ SWMBO was, I was holding a curious Border Collie on a lead.

Glancing around I saw these circular lights on 2 vans

To my shame I can't remember the names moulded into the lenses

One had the diffusion pattern on the reflector & the other had it in the lens.

Can anyone possibly check out the names for me please, so I can do some digging, either on-line, or at a Commercial Vehicle Electrical specialist in Wakefield

I think one of the 2 types began with a 'J';

Jovex, Javex, Jobox

(the parts desk was closed, so I couldn't ask in the showroom)

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JOKON is the name that you are looking for :yes:

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JOKON is the name that you are looking for :yes:

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Eventually managed to go to specialist this morning, usual chap on the desk

Told him the manufacturer & diameter & he disappeared, less than 30seconds later he came out with a pair of stop/tail lights.

The cost?

?8.60 light unit

?1.20 plinth

Bottom line = ?23.03 (inc VAT)

He says they have at least a 100 of each application in stock, as a local commercial body-builder buys his stock there.

All I've got to do now is decide what to use to cut the larger hole out with.

Any suggestions for a neat finish?

They also have LED varients at about ?20.00

Sorry, just in case anyone local needs to know, I got them from; AES

He suggested that JOKON is a poor quality version, now whether that's simply because they don't deal with them, I don't know??

Although he did know they were used by caravan manufacturers

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Are you able to use the existing hole as a centre for the bigger hole? In which case use a conical "reamer" bit in a power drill, this will slowly open out the hole and give you a perfect finish.

But if you need to re-centre and drill a new hole, I'd use a drill bit a few mm undersized and then use the reamer bit to get it exactly right.

Robert

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It'll have to be off-set Rob, as the existing lights are so close to the body edge.

I might have to lower the number plate as well (or slice a corner off, if that's not an MoT test failure?)

If you read my initial posting, & click on the underlined 'this 90', you'll see a picture of what my eventual aim is.

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I've just had a quick look & trial-fit.

The tail/stop lights require the orifice enlarging by about 2-3mm to the inner face, otherwise the plinth overlaps the body-capping to the outer edge.

In a rear indicator position, they are a straight exchange, no overlap.

I also need to sort out some self-tappers & screws for the lamps to plinths.

Once the front are in-line for fitment, they need a fair amount taking off the inner edge, or they interfere with the finishing trim too much

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Phoned the Wakefield (Land Rover) main dealer this morning out of curiosity, & got the following prices;

AMR 6526 Stop/tail = ?10.00

AMR 6527 Indicator = "about ?25" was the phrase used :fright:

AMR 3850 Mounting plinth = ?5.00 (not included with the above lights)

Didn't ask about;

AMR 3507 Reverse (& side-light)

AMR 6522 Fog

(both incorporate plinth as standard)

They're used on current production Defenders, hence 'from stock'

Surprisingly, tail/stop & indicator are in 'LR' terms special order!

I know from my history though, that they were only used by the factory on certain production years for USA market vehicles

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Hi,

I've never used a reamer to move the centre of a hole, but it should work - or a round metal file and a bit of swearing - and then finish off with a reamer.

My company in Rotterdam builds process control analysers and robot sampling systems for petrochemical and pharmaceutical companies, and we often need to build an instrumentation case - most of the standard holes are just punched out - and the guys use a reamer to create the non-standard openings.

I design the chemometric / mathematical software and only use my toolshops for homework.

Can you not just move the number plate down a few mm? I assume it's held on with sticky pads. But if you need to trim the number plate - removing a complete slice from the top will be much less noticable.

Robert

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Hi,

I've never used a reamer to move the centre of a hole, but it should work - or a round metal file and a bit of swearing - and then finish off with a reamer.

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You'll probably be better off with a circular grindstone bits fitted in your Dremel - and use that to move and enlarge the hole.

The thin cutting disks are quite fragile, especially if you try to cut anything other than a straight line.

Please wear good eye protection - polycarbonate safety glasses are really essential with cutting disks and grinding bits.

Robert

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You'll probably be better off with a circular grindstone bits fitted in your Dremel - and use that to move and enlarge the hole.

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Fitted the stop/tails this morning.

I used the old fashioned drill/file method, they're a heck of a lot brighter.

Rear indicators next.........

Fitted the stop/tails this morning.

I used the old fashioned drill/file method, they're a heck of a lot brighter.

Rear indicators next.........

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Fitted indicators last Friday(?)

Front end next

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Fitted the front end about 2weeks ago & they're a lot brightre

On the way home from work, I turn off on a corner that has chevron boards. In late June (@ 22:00) the indicators were reflectin at about 70yards, the standard ones never did that

Did the rest of the rear this morning.

Fitted reverse & tail/fogs

I still need to finsih of wiring as it was too hot & I was running out if time.

I've got the secondary tail-lights (lower) to splice into the upper main pair,& the near-side fog to connect up

Far more visible than the miniscule standard lamps

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