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[twinaxel]

It's in french but you should get the gist of whats being said http://www.liguedesc...-embarques.html

[bobnchris]

OMG, I gave up after about 5 mins

I think this could be a job for Maurice, test his French - full translation by Tuesday please.  No excuses, the dog did not eat your homework

I get the impression that they are clamping down on people that speed.  I dont have a problem with that, maybe we should follow their lead?

Driving home from caravan there are two 50mph stretches.  About a third ignore the limit, by varying degrees.  Sometimes its seems like I'm driving at 10mph, they just leave me for dead

Any other t&t'er want to publish a tanslation?  feel free - better still find the English version

[woody]

Michelin route planner can help you with this.  if you know your proposed route get a route plan from http://www.viamichelin.co.uk.  then in the route summary you will see  a "view the road map" button.  Just below that there is a tick box to show the "Incidents" en route.   click on that and you will all speed camera locations shown on your route with the mileage from your departure point next to each one.  Then its a simple case of ticking off as you pass.

Here is an example of how they are shown.... Note not as a camera as that's not allowed but as a warning its a dangerous area.
34 m A150 Dangerous area (130 km/h), near La Vaupalière

Its a good planner for toll costs and expected journey times as its allows you the option of selecting a trailer.  Also available as an app on the iphone

[gmc15]

woody, on 09 July 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:

Michelin route planner can help you with this.  if you know your proposed route get a route plan from http://www.viamichelin.co.uk.  then in the route summary you will see  a "view the road map" button.  Just below that there is a tick box to show the "Incidents" en route.   click on that and you will all speed camera locations shown on your route with the mileage from your departure point next to each one.  Then its a simple case of ticking off as you pass.
Here is an example of how they are shown.... Note not as a camera as that's not allowed but as a warning its a dangerous area.
34 m A150 Dangerous area (130 km/h), near La Vaupalière

Its a good planner for toll costs and expected journey times as its allows you the option of selecting a trailer.  Also available as an app on the iphone

Thanks for that. I have turned off camera alerts on my car sat nav and TomTom, but this is excellent advice - even though I try not to speed anyway

[MacSpot]

TomTom have changed their alerts for France from speed camera alerts to danger zone alerts, where the alert will cover a certain distance that may contain a speed camera. And according to the TomTom support web site, this has been done with the agreement of the Road Safety Ministry. There is a simple route you can run to confirm your device is compliant. It involves running your device via the TomTom Home software then set a route starting at Blagon and travelling to Le Las. You should get an alert with a warning triange (not  a camera) as you approach Le Las.

More information on this TomTom forum (http://discussions.t...light/true#M526)

[RogerL]

That sounds like a similar principle to that used by Snooper on their satnavs, when their radar detectors started to become illegal - since the authorities can only put speed cameras in "high risk" areas (officially anyway!) Snooper simply advise where the "high risk areas" are, from the database.

As this warning of "high risk" areas does reduce the number of speeders in each such area, I guess that the authorities consider these warnings as complementary to their own efforts to reduce accidents - because the satnav will warn 24/7 but the mobile camera is only there occasionally

[Beejay]

bobnchris, on 08 July 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

OMG, I gave up after about 5 mins

I think this could be a job for Maurice, test his French - full translation by Tuesday please.  No excuses, the dog did not eat your homework

I get the impression that they are clamping down on people that speed.  I dont have a problem with that, maybe we should follow their lead?

Driving home from caravan there are two 50mph stretches.  About a third ignore the limit, by varying degrees.  Sometimes its seems like I'm driving at 10mph, they just leave me for dead

Any other t&t'er want to publish a tanslation?  feel free - better still find the English version

As Maurice has not responded I will give an outline.

Basically it is a petition against the new type of radars being introduced throughout France after a successful trial in four departments last year.

These radars will be  mounted in various types of  unmarked vehicles and can cover single or multiple lanes and up to nine  vehicles at the same time. It is claimed that all French enforcement authorities will have them eventually.
The penalty ticket is produced automatically by machine at the central processing office in Rennes and posted to the vehicle's registered keeper there is no human intervention in the process.  Penalties in France are fixed according to the amount of excess speed over the limit.
Obviously, the postal system will not apply to U.K. registered vehicles but there is always the possibility of being stopped and "verbalised" on the spot. The French now have cross border agreements with several countries but the U.K., so far, has not agreed to take part in cross border exchange.

Bonne routes  et bonnes vacances cet été mes amis.

[RogerL]

Beejay, on 10 July 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

Obviously, the postal system will not apply to U.K. registered vehicles but there is always the possibility of being stopped and "verbalised" on the spot. The French now have cross border agreements with several countries but the U.K., so far, has not agreed to take part in cross border exchange.

I'm vague on this as I don't pay full attention to things that don't concern me - but I recall that DVLA is making a fortune selling registration details to EU countries, specifically France, in order to apply penalties even when visitors return home.

Have I recalled it wrongly ?

[indoors]

Hi all,
Beejay is correct, mobile speed camera offences, the police will stop you and you will receive an on the spot fine ( though thankfully no points on your UK driving licence ). Fixed camera  offences( at the moment ) you will not be pursued.
Enjoy your caravanning (responsibly !!),indoors.

[Beejay]

RogerL, on 10 July 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:

I'm vague on this as I don't pay full attention to things that don't concern me - but I recall that DVLA is making a fortune selling registration details to EU countries, specifically France, in order to apply penalties even when visitors return home.

Have I recalled it wrongly ?

There are reports of private U.K. debt collection  companies acting on behalf of European authorities  obtaining R.O. details from DVLA and  attempting to obtain penalty payments in the U.K. by threat of court action.
As any court action would be a civil action  in the U.K. it follows that it would not be possible for these companies to do so for an offence committed outside the U.K.
It is also reported that there is a chance that offences committed in some countries may be recorded and being stopped during subsequent visits may result in the earlier penalty being enforced.