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[Maurice]

Just had a new registration document come through for my 2006 Volvo.

A RED document..

One of the reasons given is that " Following the theft of a number of blank blue V5C's to reduce the risk of motorists buying a stolen or cloned vehicle"

Has any one else had one -- It isn't a scam ??? is it??

Maurice

[RogerL]

No, it's genuine - it's just taking forever to replace all the V5C documents as well as issuing the new type for all new registrations.

http://www.direct.go...hicle/dg_189329

[gary]

got mine a few weeks ago

[Bob]

I've had one as well as a replacement for my previous car and the one for my new car was also red.  No worries Maurice.

[MONTYSA]

Hi

Got one couple of days ago, did receive information about this in road tax reminder

Happy Caravaning

Monty

[MacSpot]

We got a red V5C with our car last September. I believe there was lorraine number of blank blue V5 stolen a couple of years ago and they have started to appear on a regular basis, hence the change.

[AlBundy65]

http://www.touringan...__fromsearch__1

[avtur1]

All three of our V5's have been replaced, but given the express warning that the V5 should not be regarded as proof of ownership I wonder what the real value of the document is.

As with road tax, MOT and insurance details which are all on-line so how long will it be before we go paperless? Also given that we seem to be living in an era of ANPR law enforcement why have the paper?

One of our cars was MOT'd last week, you no longer get a 'certificate' just a scrappy piece of A4 paper! not designed to be in anyway secure, so why bother?

[RogerL]

avtur1, on 17 June 2012 - 01:05 PM, said:

All three of our V5's have been replaced, but given the express warning that the V5 should not be regarded as proof of ownership I wonder what the real value of the document is.

As with road tax, MOT and insurance details which are all on-line so how long will it be before we go paperless? Also given that we seem to be living in an era of ANPR law enforcement why have the paper?

One of our cars was MOT'd last week, you no longer get a 'certificate' just a scrappy piece of A4 paper! not designed to be in anyway secure, so why bother?

The vehicle registration document has NEVER been regarded as proof of ownership and all those I've ever had have had warnings on to that effect.

ANPR enforcement is very effective but when the data held is incorrect the paperwork is necessary to defend the case.

A paper MoT certificate needs to be issued even now to give the relevant reference number for anyone to check the MoT status and details of all advisories.

[avtur1]

No need to shout 'NEVER' Roger I know that full well .... and I understand it the main reason for issung Red Top V5 is to given even greater visibility to this matter as it has been so misunderstood by so many people in the over the years.

I'm glad you think a piece of paper will be valuable when stopped by the Police, incorrect details are a problem but having a piece of paper at the roadside will do little to resolve the matter.

Why can't MOT details be sourced from a search by resgistration number ?

[RogerL]

The only reason for issuing red V5Cs is because a huge batch of blue ones got stolen - so the idea is to make them worthless.

At a ANPR stop, having a piece of paper forces the police to carry out further checks - like phoning an insurer or DVLA direct - if the information they get contradicts the ANPR system then they can't impound the vehicle.

Registration number and make can be used to determine if a valid MoT exists but further information like it's dating and advisories can only be obtained from reference numbers on the worthless paper MoT certificate or the V5C.

[AlBundy65]

B.T. used to be just as bad, ring them up and they would want your account number, offer them your phone number and they would say that was no good account number needed !!!!