16 replies to this topic

[RogerL]

Kerbweight 1,875kg, towing weight 2,000kg, double cab pickup £13,995

http://www.greatwall...reat-wall-steed

[toscal]

But is it 4WD.  Fuel consumption looks good if its to be believed. I get about 28 to 30 mpg  around town in my L200.

[Angus]

Don`t think you get 4Wd for that money, so what you DO get is a 2WD pick-up capable of towing no more than an average decent size saloon, but having the ride quality of a bucking bronco and the re-sale value of an empty crisp packet.

If you NEED a pick-up, get one which is fit for purpose!

The Great Wall has a payload of 1 tonne - which is fine, but that is based on the minimum kerb weight, so it will be a lot less when you take into account its actual   kerb weight, then add a few extras such as fuel, driver, passengers etc.


In its favour, it is new. But in reality an 18 month old Insignia estate will do the job cheaper, faster, more comfortably and in considerably more style for less money. Unless you really need  an open-bed pick-ip.
Also a top speed of 87 mph (unladen) doesn`t actually bode well, as if that is the limit of its capabilities in perfect condtions then by the time it has got a family, their luggage, bikes, dinghys awning etc and a caravan on the back will it actually move??

[Surfer]

In addition some manufacturers have a disclaimer in their warranty that if a pickup is used it will invalidate the warranty.

[bi6als]

at last something worse than a Ssang Yong..........

or is it?

[bfgbeanieking]

Rather have one of these than a BMW

[Brassneck]

Generously equipped, keenly priced, the Steed S simply gives you more pick-up for your money.

• Spacious double cab
  
• Powerful 2.0 litre turbo diesel engine
  
• Air conditioning
  
• Thatcham Category 1 alarm and immobiliser with keyless entry
  
• 6-speed manual transmission
  
• Electric 'shift on the move' selection between 2WD and 4WD
  
• Low range 4WD
  
• Full electric windows
  
• 16" Alloy wheels
  
• Steering wheel audio controls
  
• ABS and EBD brakes
  
• Alpine Radio/CD with USB/RDS and four surround-sound speakers
  
• Bluetooth hands-free mobile phone connectivity*
  
• Leather upholstery with individually heated front seats

[GaryB]

It looks okay!

[Brassneck]

Biggest SUV producer in China, and looking likely the engines are Mitsubishi.

[Angus]

bfgbeanieking, on 19 April 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Rather have one of these than a BMW

Care to justify that?

Or has the agricultural ride of the Sorrento just addled your brain?

A bit childish to judge a vehicle on it's badge , rather than it's abilities and what it actually costs to run. A low initial purchase price doesn't automatically mean a vehicle is cheap to run, as Im sure your choice of machine perfectly exemplifies. Yes, you can pick them up for nowt, but they aren't cheap  to run, and are worthless used. Depreciation is the biggest cost in a new car (such as the Great Wall), it's taken many years for Korean cars to approach European levels of residuals (and to compete on quality and dynamics, but they are getting there rapidly) there is nothin to suggest than the generally sub-standard fare from China will buck the trend,

Great Wall are aiming to sell on price- there is a ready Market. They need to as they can't compete dynamically, (central locking, tinted glass and a bit of dead cow isn't "refinement"), just as the Koreans were unable to until the last couple of years. They are the modern day equivalent of the Lada, Moskvitch and Wartburg. A great advance if you're used to walking.

[GaryB]

Skoda used to be laughed at a few years ago.............

[Angus]

GaryB, on 19 April 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

Skoda used to be laughed at a few years ago.............

Indeed, and in the early days they were quite rudimentary, basic and cheap. But that was years ago.

I drove loads of cars before I settled on what I wanted, (I did try a Sorrento but found the new model - although a vast improvement on the earlier one - poor in comparison to the Santa Fe  but I didn`t like the body roll and daft hand(foot?) brake) of that, and settled on a Skoda Superb Elegance 4x4 Combi - but couldn`t get one for 18 weeks in the spec I wanted. Superb by name and nature. But don`t be fooled into thinking thee is any similarity between one of those and an Estelle or (original) Octavia!

The Chinse are buying the technology to produce quality cars, no doubt they will get there, but the current stuff (including the new MGs) are a good way off being desirable, so you are back to bargain bucket price tags and no residuals.

[Rodders]

Angus, on 19 April 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

but couldn`t get one for 18 weeks in the spec I wanted. Superb by name and nature. But don`t be fooled into thinking thee is any similarity between one of those and an Estelle or (original) Octavia

18 weeks !thats a blink of an eyelid , we ordered a top of thr range Yeti , quoted 6 months ,turned into 9 months , turned into a year , so cancelled , hence a Tiggy
Original Octavia ? yup I had one , moving from a Ford 100E van it was a Rolls Royce to me , TBH when you compare with the Mk1 Cortina , Anglia , Hilman Hunter etc they were not  that bad !

http://upload.wikime...via_veteran.jpg

[JamesF]

Just been to Cuba where the airport "air bridges", all of the buses most of the new cars are Chinese. (they even make a CLK copy  - I had to look real close to see the difference!)

I would def give this a test drive :)

Specially if you can get a "truck top" for the back so i can use it for my "band kit (PA axe's amps etc) "

[JohnS]

And what's wrong with Ssang Yong?

Great car and good value for money.